There is a lot of confusion about the John and Anthony Cable/Cobles of Orange and Guilford Counties, North Carolina.
Much of this probably derives from German naming patterns. Two naming patterns were very common. First, for boys, the first son would be named for his father’s father, second for the mother’s father, third after the father. Alternatively, the third son would be named for the father’s oldest brother and the fourth for the father. As can be imagined, brothers living near each other could produce multiple sons of the same first and surname. Also, it must be remembered that in early America the term Jr. was used to distinguish men of the same name, one older, the other his junior.
Some genealogists have pegged the Anthony and Anna Maria Coble of Guilford as the parents of Anthony of Rockcastle County, Kentucky. The Anthony of Guilford was born in 1717 and his wife in 1723. She would have been 55 when Anthony of Rockcastle [for this note, hereinafter called Anthony RC] was born in 1778 which would be highly unlikely. Of her verifiable children, the last – David – was born in the 1760’s, leaving a long gap in childbearing.
Some genealogists have identified the Anthony Jr. of Orange County, North Carolina as the Anthony of Rockcastle. These are two separate people. Both Anthony RC and Anthony Jr. had children christened at Freidens Church in 1805. Anthony RC and wife Barbara’s son Elias was born on the 15th of May while Anthony Jr. and wife Kara had a daughter born on the 1st of November. Anthony Jr. was on the census lists at Orange County in 1820 while Anthony RC was on the census lists at the same time in Rockcastle County, Kentucky. Both Anthony’s died about 1825 since Anthony Jr.’s estate is probate in Orange County and Anthony RC is no longer on the tax lists of RC after 1825. The coincidence of death date undoubtedly adds to the confusion.
Timeline
1763 Jun18 Anthony Coble; 450 ac.; McCulloh Tract No. 11 (near Haw River)[1]
1763 Jun 22 John Coble; 355 ac.; McCulloh Tract No. 11 (Near Haw River)[1]
1770Jan18 Andrew Rudolph of Orange and Mary his wife to Anthony Coble of same, £145 for 388 ac. On waters of Stinking Quarter, beginning at a WO on Jahn Barton’s line Christian Morris’s, his line … to a WO on line of Henry E. McCullock Tract 7…Wit: John and Martha McGee[2]
1773 Anthony Coble on Col. John McGee Debtors List of his estate; John Coble – same[3]
1778Jul1 Anton Goebel born/baptized; son of Anthony and Anna Maria Goebel[4]
1780 Anthony Cable; 308 ac.; 3H; 11C;£775; Chatham Dist.; John Cable; 581ac.; 3H; 6 C; £1,285; Chatham Dist.; Both living next to Peter and John Tickle[5]
1787 Anthoney Cable, Orange Co., NC, Tax list, Chatham Dist.[6]
1787 John Cable, Orange Co., NC, Tax list, Chatham Dist.[6 ]
1787 Philip Cable, Orange Co., NC, Tax list, Chatham Dist.[6]
1788 Anthony Cable, Orange Co., NC Tax list, St. Asaph Dist.[6]
1788 Phillip Cable, Orange Co., NC Tax list, St. Asaph Dist.[6]
1790 John Coble, Chatham Dist., Orange Co., NC[7]
1790 Philip Coble, Chatham Dist., Orange Co., NC[7]
1790 Antony Coble, Chatham Dist., Orange Co., NC[7]
1790 Anthony Coble, Guilford Co., NC (1man over 16, 2 boys under 16 and 4 girls or women)[7]
1791 Anthony Cable, Orange Co., NC, Tax list, Chatham Dist.[6]
1791 John Cable, Sr., Orange Co., NC, Tax list, Chatham Dist.[6]
1791 John Cable, Orange Co., NC, Tax list, Chatham Dist.[6]
1791 Philip Cable, Orange Co., NC, Tax list, Chatham Dist.[6]
1792 Anthony Cable, Orange Co., NC, Tax list, Chatham Dist.[6]
1792 John Cable, Orange Co., NC, Tax list, Chatham Dist.[6]
1792Mar 2 Thomas Mulhollan of Orange to Antony Cable of same. £15 10s for 46ac. On Haw River ..stake to corner of Jesse Phillips … Wit: __Albright, John Sharp[2]
1792Mar12 Jacob Holt of Orange to Antony Cable of same,£80 for 100 ac. On s side of Haw River … Wit: Wm. Rainey, Benjamin Rooney[2]
1793Nov Will of Anthony Coble of Guilford Co. probated. Names sons George, Ludwick, and David; daus Barbara Glass, Lisabeth Smith, Eve Glass, Molly Shatterly, Cataren Cortner, and Turley(?); land dispersed is in Guilford Co on Shockless, and Beaver Creek. Note: This is the Anthony Coble said to have married Anna Maria Emig/Amick. Amick land is near that having belonged to this Anthony Coble. Guilford County Wills
1797Dec14 Conrod Farmer of Orange to Anthony Cable of same, £25 for 27-1/2 acres on Haw River south side, part of tract from NC to Jessee Phillips, 9 Nov1784..Wit: John Coble (in German)[2]
1798Jan27 Benjamin Rainey of Orange to Anthony Cable of same, £13 for 26 ac. On waters of Traveses Creek… Wit: William Rainey, Henry Strader[2]
1799Jul1 Anthony Cable turns 21
1800 Anthony Cable, Orange Co., NC – he over 45 (b bef 1755), wife over 45; son bet 26-44 (b 1755-1775), son 16 -26 (b 1775-1785)[7] Note: The son 16 to26 would be Anthony of Rockcastle.
1800 Anthony Cable, Jr. Orange Co., NC – he age 26 to 45; wife age 16 to 26; 2 daus. Under 10[7] Note:This is not be the Anthony Cable who went to Rockcastle Co., KY. The two daus b 1790 to 1800 would be the same as the two daus that the Anthony Jr. has, b bet 1790 & 1800, in the 1810 USC.
1800 John Cable, Orange Co., NC – he over 45 (b bef 1755), wife same, son 26-45, dau 26-45, 3 boys under 10[7] Note: This would indicate that Anthony Sr. and John are likely brothers or at least cousins of that same generation.
1801Sep1 William Gwinn of Orange to Anthony Coble and Peter Summers of Guilford, $2450 for 370 ac. Of S side of Haw River… wit: Andrew Gibson, Benjamin Rainey, Anthony Cable (in German)[2] Note: Since Anthony Cable (in German) is the witness, the Anthony buying land with Peter Summers must be either Anthony Jr. or Anthony of Rockcastle.
1801Sep1 Benjamin Sherman of Orange to Anthony Coble and Peter Summers of Guilford, $50 for 12 ac. Within banks of Haw River ?? … Henry McClour line… Wit: Andre Gibson, Benja. Rainey, Anthony Coble[2]
1801Sep1 Israel Holt of Orange to Anthony Cable and Peter Summers of Guilford, $250 for 175 ac. Wit: Andrew Gibson, Benja. Rainey, Anthony Coble[2]
1802Sep7 Johannes Gobel and his wife Chatarina – a daughter born 7th Sept 1802. Bapt. 21st Nov 1802 – Called Maria Barbara – sponsors were Antonius Gobel and his wife Anna Maria. [8]8
1802Nov15 Andony Gobel and his wife Raza (or Kaza) – a son born Nov 15th 1802 and Baptized Mar 27th 1803 – his name is Johan Georg – sponsors were Peter Somer and his wife Maria Barbara[8]8
1803May31 Anthony Coble, son of Anthony Coble, Sr., to Maria Barbara Sommers, daughter of Peter Sommers, on May 31, 1803 are at the Brick (aka “Der Klapp Kirche”) Church in Guildford Co, NC. Note: It is interesting that Anthony and Barbara were married at Brick Church when their families were active members of Friedens Church. Could it be that Barbara was only 15 and so they eloped?[9]
1803Dec8 Anthony Cable Sr. of Orange to Anthony Cable Jr. of same for £300 169 acres on Haw River[2]. Note:It is unknown whether this is a sale to the Anthony, later of Rockcastle or of Orange.
1803Dec8 Anthony Cable Sr. of Orange to Peter Summers of Guilford, $500 for 370 ac. On S side of Haw River, …includes Grist and Saw Mill Wit: Andrew Gibson, Jacob Summers[2]
1805Mar19 Daniel Streter and his wife Elisabeth – a daughter Anna Maria born 19th March 1805 – Bapt last day June 1805 – sponsors were Johannes Gobel and his wife Catharina[8]32
1805May15 Andony Gobel and his wife Barbara – their son Elias born 15th day May 1805 – and bapt 14th July 1805 – sponsors were Andony Gobel and his wife Maria[8]10
1805Sep7 COMMUNICANTS IN THE YEAR OF Christ 1805 – on the 7th September: Joh. Gobel, Andoni Gobel and Barbara Note: This Anthony and Barbara are probably parents of Elias, above.[8]94
1805Dec3 Benjamin Rainey of Orange to Anthony Cable of same, $40 for 39 ac. On Traveses Creek..on line of Conrod Tikall …Wit:Phillip Huffines, Conrod Tickell[2]
1805Dec1 Anthony Gobel and his wife (Kergein ?) a daughter with the name Susanna baptized 15th Dec 1805 – she was born 1st Nov in the same year – sponsors were Johannes Gobel and his wife Catharina. Note: This entry demonstrated that there were two Anthony Cables with wives of childbearing age living near Freidens Church at the same time since Suzanna and Elias were born so close in date to each other.[8]11
1806Mar19 Anthony Cable to Jacob Clin, $300 for 214 ac. On s side of Haw River on waters of Traveses Creek…corner of Christopher Clin & George Strader…to Peter Tickle’s Senr. Wit: Jacob Isley, Jacob Linebery, Shadrack Allen[2]
1806Apr27 Johannes Gobel and his wife Catharina – a daughter with the name Elisabeth – Baptized 27th day April 1806 – She was born 8th day March 1806 -sponsors were Anthony Gobel and wife Reza. [8]28
1806Aug8 Anna Maria Goebel buried at Freidens Lutheran Church Cemetery, born 24 September 1748 and died 8Aug1806, age 58 (Row 30S Grave 31[10]). Note: This may be the wife of Anthony Cable Sr. and mother to Anthony Gobel who married Barbara Summers.[11]
1807Mar1 Anthony Gobel and his wife (Raza or Kaza) – a son with the name Israel – bapt 12th day March 1807 – He was born 24th day Feb in the same year – sponsors were Israel Holt and his wife Christina[8]11
1807Sep1 Adam Streter and his wife Elisabeth – a daughter – named Catarina – born 1st day Sept 1807 – Bapt 27th – same year – sponsors were Johannes Gobel and his wife Catarina.[8]11
1808Sep1 Anthony Cable Jr. of Orange, farmer, to Caleb Pyle, £55 for 200 ac. On waters of Haw River, … Wit: Jacob Boon, Henry Willis[2]
1809Apr1 Johannes Gobel and his wife Catharina – a daughter with the name Sara Baptized 22nd day May 1809 – she was born 18th day April 1809 – sponsors were Adam Streter and his wife Elisabeth[8]28
1809Dec2 COMMUNICANTS on 2nd December 1809: Andony Gabel * and his wife[8]124
1809Dec2 CONFIRMED in the Christian Church on the 2nd December 1809: Johannes Gobel, Philipp Gobel[ 8]124
1810 Jno Cable, Orange Co., NC 1-1-1-0-2//3-0-0-0-2[7]
1810 A. Cable Sr., Orange Co., NC 2-0-0-1-1//2-0-0-1-0[7]
1810 A. Cable Jr., Orange Co., NC 3-0-0-1-0//3-2-0-2-0[7]
1811 Anthony Cable Sr. dies.
1811May28 Administration of estate of Anthony Cable granted to Barbary Cable and Israel Holt[2]
1811Sep11 Bastian Geringer and his wife Margretha – their daughter Barbara born 11th day Sept 1811. Bapt. 1st day Dec same year – Sponsors were Johannes Gobel and his wife Catharina [8]6
1812Nov2 Anthony Cable of Orange to Peter Summers Guilford, $150 for 175 acres, ….Wit: L.M. Summers[2]
1812Nov2 Anthony Cable of Orange to Peter Summers Guilford, $50 for 12 ac., ….Wit: L.M. Summers[2]
1812Nov2 Anthony Cable of Orange to Peter Summers Guilford, $1000 for 308 ac….Wit: L.M. Summers[2]
1813 Anthony and Barbary Cable on Rockcastle Co., KY tax list.
1813Sep6 Petrus Summer Jr and his wife – their daughter Sussana born 6th Sept 1813 – Bapt 20th Feb 1814 – sponsors were Johan Gabel Jr and his wife.[8]34
1813Dec22 Johannes Gabel and his wife – their son Vallindin born 22nd Dec 1813 – Bapt. 23rd Jan 1814 – sponsors were Vellindin Summer and his wife Catharina.[8] 42
1814Nov29 Johannes Gabel and his wife – their daughter Maria born 29th Nov 1814 – Bapt 19th March 1815 – sponsors were Adam Streter and his wife[8]42
1815Nov24 Johannes Gabel and his wife – their daughter Delila born 24th Nov 1815 – Bapt 17th March 1816 – sponsors was Catharina Summer unmarried.[ 8]42
1816Feb26 Anthoni Gabel and his wife – their son Wilhelm born 26th Feb 1816 Bapt 9th June 1816 – sponsors were Conrath Tickel and his wife.831
1816 Anthony Cable; Haw River; 264 ac.; $600; John Coble Jr.; Haw River; 200 ac.; $300; John Coble Sr.; Haw River; 200 ac.; $600[12]
1819Oct24 COMMUNICANTS on the 24th October 1819: Elisabeth Gabel[8]102
1820 Anthony Cable on 1820 USC at Rockcastle Co., KY 1 male over 45, son 10-15, wife 26-44[7]
1820Mar24 Johannes Gabel and his wife – their daughter Saloma born 24th March 1820 – Bapt 2nd July 1820 – sponsors Saloma Summer[8]25
1822Nov2 COMMUNICANTS November the 2nd 1822: Nelle Gobel[8]90
1822Dec8 Johannes Gabel and wife – their daughter Catharina born 8th Dec 1822 Bapt 2nd March 1823 – sponsors the parents[8] 38
1823Dec1 Jacob Gabel and his wife – their son Ludwig born 1st Dec 1823 – Bapt 10th Jan 1824 – sponsors were Jacob Weitzel Jun and his wife.[8]32
1824Jun13 COMMUNICANTS on 13th June 1824: Susan Cable[8]91
1824Oct9 Johannes Gabel Jun and wife – their son Mabon born 9th Oct 1824 – Bapt 26th Dec 1824 – sponsors were the parents[8]51
1824Dec5 Philip Gabel and wife – their son George Cortner born 5th Dec 1824 Bapt 27th Feb 1825 – sponsors Matteus Cortner and wife.[8]44
1825 Last year that Anthony Cable is on Rockcastle Co., KY Tax list
1826Nov1 Jacob Gabel and wife – their son Daniel born 1(_) Nov 1826 – Bapt 21st Jan 1827 – sponsors were the parents[8]56
1827Apr2 Heinrich Weitzel and wife – their Saloma born 2nd April 1827 Bapt. 24th June 1827 – sponsors were Jacob Gabel and wife.[8]56
1827Feb27 Johannes Gabel and wife – their daughter Rebeka born 27 Feb 1827. Bapt 24th June 1827. Sponsors Johannes Gabel Sen and wife. [8]57
1827Sep13 Jacob Hoffman and wife Polly – their daughter Elizabeth born 13th September 1827. Bapt. the 11th July 1828. sponsers John Cable and his wife Elizabeth.[8]59
1828Jul17 Jacob Gabel and wife – their daughter Maria born 17th July 1828. Bapt. 26th Oct 1828. Sponsors were the parents. [8]60
[1] Early Settlers in the NC Piedmont; NCGSJ –
[2] Orange County NC Deeds
[3] 1733 Debtors of Col. John McGee, Orange Co., NC, NCGSJ
[4] Original christening certificate in possession of H. Asher, 2011. Is in old German script.
[5] List of Taxable Property in Orange Co., NC, 1780, NCGSJ- Aug85
[6] Orange County Taxpayers, (TLCGenealogy:Miami Beach, FL, 1991)
[7] U. S. Census
[8] Freidens Church Records, page number
[9] Brick Church Records
[10] This Anna Maria Goebel is buried in the same cemetery row as the Summers family whose daughter Anthony Jr. married.
[11] Guilford County Cemeteries, Vol. II, Maria A. Browning, ed., Greensboro Genealogical Society, Greensboro, NC, 2001
[12] The Federal Direct Tax of 1816 as Assessed in Orange Co., NC, NCGHS – VI:1, 37